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it away. cnn "newsroom" starts now. good morning. >>> happening now in the newsroom, president obama meets up with one-time rival mitt romney for lunch at white house. could a solution to the fiscal cliff be on the menu? live report from washington straight ahead. >> plus this -- stunning video out of syria, rebels cheer after a military helicopter is shot down. what does it mean for the united states? >>> drones. we know the military uses them. well, get ready for drones possibly buzzing your house. >>> and forget steroids. adderall is the new p.e.d. and four nfl players are suspended. >>> cup of joe, only one question left. something you would buy? >> no, not at all. >> "newsroom" starts now. >> good morning to you. thank you so much for being with me. i'm carol costello. we begin in washington today where president obama will play host to mitt romney this afternoon andn what could be one of the most anticipated meals in the nation's capital since thanksgiving. white house correspondent dan lothian joins me now. so, i don't know. i would love to be a fly on the wall. wouldn't you? >> no
, they're smoking joints. >>> i dare you, like double dare you. obama administration bites and says, yeah, we're prepared to go off the fiscal cliff. >>> roger goodell, the commissioner football fans love to hate. there's a softer, gentler side of goodell. seriously. the nfl commissioner you don't know. "newsroom" starts now. >>> good morning. thank you so much for joining me. i'm carol costello. smoke 'em if you got 'em. recreational marijuana is officially legal in washington state. shall we say a rather mellow celebration at seattle's space needle? pot smokers lit up like it was new year's eve. new voter approved initiative went into effect midnight. this pot party technically, is illegal. wz's law bans smoking pot in public places. for now the seattle police department is turning a blind eye. this notice was sent to all officers last night. until further notice officers shall not take any enforcement action, other than to issue a verbal warning, for a violation of initiative 502. miguel marquez is in seattle. you were there at midnight for the big party, when the law went into effect.
at the white house. we don't know what's on the menu when president obama, mitt romney meet for lunch today. that's right. the president is hosting his former rival about 30 minutes or so from now. it is a promise the president made during a victory speech on election night. listen. >> it's only because we love this country deeply. we care so strongly about its future. in the weeks ahead i also look forward to sitting down with governor romney to talk about where we can work together to move this country forward. >> mitt romney, he was stunned by his defeat, but gracious in his concession speech. it looked like everybody was ready to make nice until romney's remarks in a phone call to top donors days after the election. he said he lost because president obama gave policy gifts to key voting groups, including miss panics, african-americans, and young voters. >> what the president's campaign did was focus on certain members of his base coalition, give them extraordinary financial gifts from the government, and then work very aggressively to turn them out to vote. >> fast forward to today when
obama has been warning of consequences if al assad makes what mr. obama calls the tragic mistake of using chemical weapons. former british prime minister tony blair voiced his concerns earlier on cnn. >> i mean now the death toll probably would be around 40,000, since this began, since a large number of people. but if there was any sense at all that assad was going to use chemical weapons or did use chemical weapons against his own people i expect a tough response that would be military. >> and nato is taking no chances by trying to protect one of its members, alliance expected to authorize deployment of operate out missiles to turkey's border with syria. i want to bring in cnn's ivan watson joining us istanbul in turkey. the turkish government asked for nato's help after the syrian government was shelling near the border and coming across inside turkey, one memorable occasion. do these missiles perhaps border tensions or the deterrent that nato claims? they're defense everybody not offensive? >> reporter: if you talk to the turkish government, if you talk to nato, officials argu
. it is pretty clear to me they made a political calculation. >> president barack obama and gop leaders held one face to face meeting on the fiscal cliff since the election. that meeting took place more than two weeks ago. >>> the kansas city chiefs suited up and took the field today against carolina. that's despite the shock and horror of yesterday's suicide of linebacker jevon belcher. stay right there with full details in a full report on cnn in just a minute. >>> high winds and heavy rain are pummeling the northwest. the rainfall will continue throughout the day. some places have already seen a foot of rain since yesterday. people living in northern california, oregon and washington state are bracing for rising rivers and possible mudslides. >>> supporters of mohammad morsi blocked the high court from indefinitely suspending all court sessions. that would suspend a ruling on the drawing up of egypt's new constitution. president morsi declared his decisions are now immune from judicial oversight. >>> it is a frightening and deadly scene in japan. just look at this. at least two cars are still
are you listening, lawmakers and president obama? facebook.com/car facebook.com/carolcnn if you would like to continue the conversation. thanks for the responses. i appreciate them. i appreciate you for watching us this morning. i'm carol costello. "cnn newsroom" continues right now with ashleigh banfield. >> thanks so much, carol. hi, everyone. i'm ashleigh banfield. it's 11:00 on the east coast. 8:00 on the west coast. how does this sound to you? >> me and my friends here, we met across the street and we smoking weed and we're on our feet and ain't handcuffed and ain't worried about the boys. i got the toys fired up. >> fired up. talk about fired up. for thousands of people in seattle and all across washington state, this day could not come soon enough. it is day one of legal recreational marijuana use. courtesy of the voters who passed a landmark referendum last month. from this day forward, if you are old enough to drink, you can consume as much as one ounce of pot in washington state but you still can't grow it and you still can't sell it. technically, you still can't buy i
. president obama and mitt romney just wrapped up lunch in the private dining room at the white house. i want you to watch closely because we caught romney's arrival and there's romney. leaving the white house. about 20 minutes ago. the president first mentioned plans to meet with romney in the election night vingt ri speech talking about it again in the first post-election news conference. >> there may be ideas that he has with respect to jobs and growth that can help middle class families that i want to hear so, you know, i'm not either prejudging what he's interested in doing nor am i suggesting i've got some specific assignment but what i want to do is get ideas from him and see if there's some ways that we can potentially work together. >> that sounds all well and good and adult, doesn't it, candy crowley? our political correspondent. and anchor of cnn's "state of the union." oh, to be a fly on the wall at that meeting. >> i know. >> lasted an hour and a half? >> yeah, yeah. >> do you think it was more of a bury the hatchet or a courtesy call-type of meeting more than substance? >> first
eyebrows to let you know what points are very important to him. >> so let's go to photos of obama and boehner from the first and only face-to-face meeting on fiscal cliff talks since the election. start with boehner, raising his eyebrow, what does that tell you? >> he's got a critical eye. he's going, i'm watching you. and so his eyes go off to the side with that little critical eye. you see it lifting up on that left-hand corner. >> okay. let's switch gears here. there's a photo of mitt romney. this is the one i really wanted you to look at. mitt romney having lunch at the white house this week. bitter rivals now trying to make nice, at least for a photo op. what does this photo tell you -- how is president obama treating the man he just beat? >> well, let me share something with you. this was a painful picture to look at because you can see he's actually having an emotional reaction -- >> do we have the picture -- there it is. let's put the picture up. i'm sorry, susan, go ahead. >> his chin wrinkles up -- this is not the clip. we were talking about the boehner one we just had.
in self defense. >>> republicans took the bait. they delivered a counter proposal to president obama's plan to avert the fiscal cliff. guess what, the white house rejected it, calling the gop proposal unbalanced and not serious. translation? no tax hikes on the wealthy so democrats said forget about it. we thought you should take a look. it totals $2.2 trillion in deficit reduction over ten years. the part that stood out to us was $600 billion in proposed savings in medicare reforms. how? in part by raising the age of eligibility to 65 to maybe 67. turning down the gop proposal, dan pfieffer said, quote, it provides no details on which deductions they would eliminate, which loopholes they will close or which medicare savings they would achieve." let's head now to the white house and dan lothian. the white house will not offer a counter proposal, right? what's going on here? >> reporter: well, you know, i think the white house is digging in. the president said early on in this process that he would only sit down and really move forward, negotiate on this in any meaningful way if the t
$800 billion in tax revenue in the fiscal cliff negotiations. president obama has said there will be no deal unless taxes are raised on the wealthiest americ americans. but staunch conservatives don't want any kind of new taxes. that's where speaker boehner's job gets really tough. on piers morgan tonight newt gingrich said if all else fails, go over the cliff. >> i think that no deal is better than a bad deal. i think going off this cliff is less dangerous than letting things build up for a year or two years to an even bigger cliff. i think that the president clearly has staked out a position of nonseriousness. and i think that it's very difficult for the house republicans right now to find any practical way to get his attention. so, he just won an election. he is feeling very good about himself. he is posturing brilliantly, putting the republicans in a corner. they need to relax. they don't have an election until november 2014. >> senior congressional correspondent dana bash joins me now. dana, can we expect fire woworkt the meeting this morning? >> reporter: possibly
that president obama is going to be responding or will he, to this latest development in the syrian chemical threat. the question is more than likely to be asked of jay carney, the white house spokesperson, and that's coming up in a live white house press briefing. you can see the reporters chairs are empty now but they'll fill up shortly because that will take effect around the half hour. stay tuned to us as we expect strong questions not only about fiscal cliff but also about this dire syrian situation. back in a moment. ne of them peoe who gets heartburn and then treats day after day... block the acid with prilosec otc and don't get heartburn in the first place! [ male announcer ] one pill each morning. 24 hours. zero heartburn. ♪ but the fire is so delightful ♪ nothing melts away the cold like a hot, delicious bowl of chicken noodle soup from campbell's. ♪ let it snow, let it snow >>> that eight-day strike at the port of los angeles that stranded all of those christmas presents, it costs us about a billion dollars a day in lost business and shut down the nation's busiest port and s
are nowhere close to a deal to avert that fiscal cliff. the obama administration has laid out its plan calling for $1.6 trillion in new taxes. that includes letting the bush era tax cuts expire for those earning more than $250,000 a year. it's also pushing for a new $50 billion stimulus package and offering $400 billion in new cuts to medicare and other entitlement programs. but republican house speaker john boehner flatly rejected the plan on the table and what he calls the white house's unwillingness to compromise. >> i was just flabbergasted. i looked at him, i said, you can't be serious. i've never seen anything like it. you know, we've got seven weeks between election day and the end of the year. and three of those weeks have been wasted with this nonsense. >> you know, i think right now the best thing to do is for them to come to us and say, look, here's what we think makes sense. we've told them what we think makes sense. what we can't do is try to figure out what's going to be good for them. they have to come tell us. >> house minority leader and democrat nancy pelosi also jumping into
table, it's happening at the sunday talk shows. it's been 16 days since president obama and congressional leaders gathered to talk about how to avoid the fiscal cliff, the automatic spending cuts and tax increases that go into effect january 1. >> i think we're farther apart but we're coming together. >> i think we're nowhere, period. >> thursday treasury secretary tim geithner presented obama's plan, including $1.4 trillion in tax increases. >> there's not going to be an agreement without rates going up. >> president obama also proposed a $16 billion of spending cuts. >> i'm just flabbergasted. i looked at him and said you can't be serious. >> the house speaker says republicans put increased revenues including efforts to close tax loopholes and put the tax cuts on the table instead of raising tax rates for anyone. >> if there's another way to get income from upper income americans that doesn't hurt our economy, then why wouldn't we consider it. >> those are publicly unchanged deadlines. whether political theater or political reality, there's more to going over the fisca
slow release. >>> one of the big decisions president obama must make is who will replace secretary of state hillary clinton. john kerry's name is floating around. there's talk of michael bloomberg or bill clinton. dana millbank is a "washington post" columnist. the president is standing firm by rice. we remember the stern words he gave against the senators who were targeting her. take a listen. >> for them to go after the u.n. ambassador who had nothing to do with benghazi and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence she had received and to besmirch her reputation is outrageous. >> since then a couple of other senators besides mccain and graham have spoken out saying rice misled the public. when the american ambassador and three others were killed in the attack in september. the real question here is can she be confirmed? not just because of benghazi but because of her whole body of work as the united nations ambassador? >> well, she does have an unusually large number of enemies on capitol hill because of things that have happened in the past, certainly john mccain b
party of two having lunch next hour at the white house. president obama, as promised, in his victory speech 23 days ago, is hosting mitt romney, who has made no secret that he really thought that it would be the other way around. and our dan lothian is counting down the minutes, standing by at the white house, even though, dan, you are not invited to the luncheon, nor am i or anyone else at the camera, a mic or even a pen. why is it so private? >> reporter: that's right. oftentimes, the president will have meetings here at the white house, lunches or official meetings, where the president is not invited in. our cameras are not allowed in. sometimes our cameras are allowed in but no editorial presence. this one of those where no cameras allowed in, we're hopeful the white house will take a pick pur and release it to us, but at this point no plans for us to sort of get a peek inside that room and listen in on that conversation. although we hope that there will be some kind of a readout to give us some indication as to what the two politicians discussed. >> you know, dan, oftentimes peo
, on the 17th of this month. so the yearly obama trip to hawaii is set to start a week from next monday. you feel me here? see where i'm going? the window closing faster than folks think. what are our decisionmakers doing right now? among other things they are apparently sending signals through the media. republicans saying time to get moving. the president saying there is a deal to be had fairly quickly if the republicans come around to raising taxes on the wealthy. let me give you the president first. >> -- good faith offer to avert the fiscal crisis, and that offer included significant spending cuts and reforms, and it included additional revenue. and frankly it was the balanced approach that the president has been asking for. now we need a response from the white house. we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves. our targets and framework are things that we can all agree on. and it is exactly how we approached our discussions in the biden group, my discussions at the white house a year and a half ago and for that matter, in the joint select committee. and if the president doesn't agr
for 18, 19 months now, syria. the world is watching. those were president obama's words for the syrian president. a stern warning for bashar al assad, the man who many fear may be about to unleash chemical weapons on his own people. >> today i want to make it absolutely clear to assad and those under his command, the world is watching. the use of chemical weapons is and would be totally unacceptable. and if you make the tragic mistake of using these weapons, there will be consequences and you will be held accountable. >> this warning here after a u.s. official tells cnn that syria has begun mixing chemicals that could be used to make the deadly gas sarin. bob bear, i'll bring you in, cnn contributor, former cia officer. welcome back. before we talk about the specifics of sarin, let me just throw this at you. is it possible at all that this man, this mad man, bashar al assad, is bluffing? >> oh, i don't think he's bluffing. we have to consider what he represents and that's a very small community, which feels under threat. it thinks it will be destroyed by sunni fundamentalists if it los
. right now president obama is meeting with the washington business roundtable. that's just minutes after speaker boehner met with rank and file gop lawmakers and former speaker pelosi met with house democrats. they are all in each other's corners speaking amongst each other but all eyes are on the fiscal cliff. let's scoot over to the president. easy merging from that meeting with the washington business leaders. let's see what he has to say. >> jim, thanks for your leadership. you know, originally my team had prepared some remarks, they always get nervous when i'm out there on my own, never know what i might say. but given the dialogue that we had the last time, i thought it was useful for me to abbreviate my remarks, speak off the cuff at the top and then most of the time just having a conversation. let me begin by saying all of you in this room are not just business leaders, not just ceos of your companies but you're also economic leaders and thought leaders in this country and i recognize that all of you have an enormous investment not only in your own companies but in the well-being
. democrats won't agree to it, president obama wouldn't sign such a bill, and the american people won't support it. >> so let's bring in dan lothian because he's at the white house where the president is just about now meeting with a group of state governors. we'll get to that in a moment. first, is there anything else in the republicans' proposal that's getting under the skin of the democrats? >> reporter: well, you know, there are obviously a lot of things in that proposal that democrats aren't necessarily embracing, but it really boils down to the, you know, tax breaks for upper income americans. i know we're starting to sound like a broken record here, but this is something that the president has been talking about even out on the campaign trail and the white house believes that, you know, the president was re-elected on that message, so the majority of americans agreed with him, and so this is really a nonstarter for democrats and for the president. they believe that the only way to really pull in revenue here is to go after wealthy americans, majority of americans won't be impac
are flying while actual talks are at a stand still. president obama says republicans must agree to preserve a middle class tax cut as first part of any deal. and he linked republicans to scrooge today while touring a pennsylvania toy factory. listen. >> if congress does nothing, every family in america will see their income taxes automatically go up on january 1st. every family, everybody here, you'll see your taxes go up on january 1st. i mean, i'm assuming that doesn't sound too good to you. that is sort of like the lump of coal you get for christmas. that's a scrooge christmas. >> that's pretty scroogy, right? president obama's proposal calls for $1.6 trillion in new tax revenue. $50 billion for new stimulus spending. and about $400 billion in entitlement cuts. republicans say, the president's proposal's nothing but a political stunt. here is boehner. >> the white house spends three weeks trying to develop a proposal and they send one up here that calls for $1.6 trillion in new taxes, calls for a little -- not even $400 billion in cuts, and they want to have this extra spending that is a
international." i'm suzanne malveaux. president obama is taking his deal on the road and to the american people. he is going to be making remarks. shortly this is going to happen in pennsylvania. we'll bring it to you live when it happens. and protesters flocking back to cairo's tahrir square. the anger about the president's power grab is intensifying after a mostly islamic assembly rushed to pass a draft constitution early this morning. the documents will be presented tomorrow to president mohammed morsi for his signature. reza sayah is overlooking tahrir square. we understand they are planning what they are calling a million man demonstration that has been called. give us a sense why are people still protest and what do we expect in the next 24 hours, the days to come? >> reporter: well, they're protesting because they're angry with president morsi, his dekoreas and how the drafting of this constitution has unfolded, and there doesn't soop seem to be an end to the protest. they're back here in big numbers. tens of thousands of them here in tahrir square. we're going to show you what it looks
're for. one of the mistakes i think the republican party made the last two years is trying to make obama the issue without sharing with america bold reform ideas that get people inspired to get behind us. >> senator demint, huge tea party supporter. sometimes clashes with his own party's leadership. he is leaving with four years left in his senate term. earlier, he said he'd retire when the term was up in 2017 but gave no previous indication he might quit now. i want to go to dana bash joining me on the phone here. dana, huge surprise to a lot of people. what's behind the resignation. >> reporter: a huge stunner. nobody saw it coming. i was told by a source close to demint he didn't accept the job until yesterday telling the staff this morning, called the governor in south carolina who, of course, will have to appoint the successor and told the republican leaders here. but look. the reason why it's such a surprise is because demint really has been over the past few years somebody who takes pride in his job. and the role that any one senator can do, which is to gum up the works and very m
talk shows but not at the negotiating table. >> reporter: it's been 16 days since president obama and congressional leaders met to talk about how to avoid the fiscal cliff. the automatic spending cuts and tack increases that begin to kick in if there's no agreement by january 1st. 16 days to get here. >> i think we're far apart still, but i think we're moving closer together. >> i would say we're nowhere, period. we're nowhere. >> reporter: thursday treasury secretary timothy geithner proposed president obama's plan which included $1.6 trillion in tax revenue coming largely from an expiration of bush era tax cuts for families who make more than $250,000 a year. geithner says that's a must. >> there's not going to be an agreement without rates going up. >> reporter: the administration's plan also included $50 billion in new stimulus spending. boehner says the entire proposal represented three weeks of wasted time. >> i was just flabbergasted. i looked at him and said you can't be serious. >> reporter: the house speaker says republicans have put increased revenues, including efforts
been evacuated from the area. >>> and lawmakers and president obama have exactly one month to cut a deal to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff. a huge package of tax hikes and spending cuts will kick in january one. they spent time blaming each other for not getting serious. in his weekly address, president obama says he is ready to make a deal but wouldn't accept continued tax cuts for the wealthiest people. >>> the senate has already passed a bill to keep income taxes from going up on middle class families. democrats in the house are ready to do the same thing. and if we can just get a few house republicans on board, i'll sign this bill as soon as congress sends it my way. but, it is unacceptable for some republicans in congress to hold middle class tax cuts hostage simply because they refuse to let tax rates go up on the richest americans. >> republicans say tax hikes on the wealthy mean tax hikes for small businesses, something they insist they cannot accept. here is long-time gop senator orin hatch. >> unfortunately, some on the other side of the aisle are indicating a disastro
're watching right now. closing guantanamo has been on president obama's agenda since he took office four years ago and it might finally become a reality, but where would all the prisoners go? possibly closer than you think. >>> more than 7 million americans suffer from the nightmare of posttramatic stress disorder, but there's a surprising new treatment, one involving the drug known as ecstasy. >>> so how could dating across party lines possibly work out? >>> two winning tickets, almost $200 million new friends we'll soon learn who power ball's newest millionaires are. >>> this surveillance video might find out who one winner might be. >>> "newsroom" starts right now. >>> good morning, everyone. thanks for joining us. i'm deb feyerick in for carol costello. just in the big story that we're keeping an eye on for you this morning. a train in new jersey has derailed after a bridge collapsed in the community of paulsboro. the train was carrying some toxic and flammable chemicals. residents in the entire community of paulsboro are being asked to stay inside and keep their windows closed while the c
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are saying this is just president obama campaigning. they're angry that he's off selling this proposal to the public instead of sitting down at the table with them and negotiating back in washington. it's a great shot, though, to watch marine one take off regardless of how you feel about it. dan lothian gets to watch it's a regular basis. >> reporter: i do. >> he's on the lawn right now. you did. he's off and running and a lot of people are angry about it, dan, saying it's not the time to sell it to the public. that's a tactic. but let's get to the nuts and bolts about it. $1.6 trillion in new taxes, it doesn't ever sit well, but there are versions of this, there are elements to it. break it down. >> reporter: right, $1.6 trillion new taxes in over 10 years and republicans saying they're surprised by this because they felt that what the president was putting out there was half of that, and just a short time ago josh ernest, a deputy white house spokesman in a gaggle of reporters that he's saying he's surprised that republicans are surprised. but i'll break it down for you, timothy geit
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and mrs. obama inside to greet seven very different artists. >> it's very rare to see led zeppelin songs being sung at the same time as david letterman jokes are being told, but i think it's going to be a great show. >> reporter: this will be balk dickinson's 20th kennedy honor show. he says there's imagine nick the room because there are no nominees here, no losers. all honorees have earned their place. british band led zeppelin will be here. their songs like "stairway to heaven" are as epic as their songs in the u.s. it's one kind of performance. this is another. russian-born natalia danced with the royal ballet. she performed accident occurring the kennedy center honors in 1981. now others will perform for her. >> chicago, thank you very much, i love you and will never leave. i'll leave but i'll be back. >> reporter: buddy guy got a chicago sendoff for his honors. he was born into a louisiana family and went on to win six grammy awards. honoree dustin hoffman said when he grew up, movie stars didn't look like he did. more than 50 films later he has two best actor oscars including this
is looking at that has led to some of these warnings from president obama and secretary of state hillary clinton. the question, of course, is what is the administration to do now? suzanne. >> how are people reacting to this news, the fact that you've got the defense secretary now what it seems to be getting closer to some of the statements we have seen about real concern over the possibility of these chemical weapons? >> yeah. i think that's exactly the point. secretary panetta going on to say, as others have, but saying it very emphatically just a few moments ago, that assad needs to know there will be consequences if he decides to use those chemical weapons against his own people, and, of course, that's as much a message to assad, to iran, which is heavily involved in syria right now, and also, to the middle east dawas in the region. turkey, israel, majoritiedan, as well as lebanon that borders syria and are very concerned about this prospect. what you are seeing really is the rhetoric, the concern, the latest intelligence, and that this is now becoming a regional concern throughout th
but nothing official. president obama is taking this sort of outside strategy where as we saw him last week he goes outside of washington. he'll be giving remarks to the business roundtable this week, meeting with business leaders tomorrow. other stakeholders this week and he's trying to kind of put some pressure on congress and learn from a mistake that he made you might say during say the debt ceiling negotiations where you saw these meetings with congressional leaders but there really wasn't a whole lot of payoff and didn't make the president look particularly effective. an issue to be resolved is to tackle entitlement reform. you have the white house and republicans saying you need to put meat on the bones and going back and forth. listen to what republican senator bob corker said. >> i think the really discussions around the fiscal cliff haven't even begun to be serious yet and the reason they haven't is we have really not begun to talk about real entitlement reforms and the only way of a true avoidance and until the debate moves to that point there's really no serious debate taking place
. >>> president obama made the fess cal cliff case to business leaders today. dan lothian is at the white house. dan, he is meeting with business leaders, but there is no phone conversation that is taking place, no conversations at all taking place with boehner now. what position is the white house in? how does the president feel this is going? >> you're right about that. the white house continues to insist conversations are ongoing, but i'm hearing from gop aides that, in fact, what we're seeing in the public is exactly what's happening in the private, and that is that it's essentially a standoff. there are no phone conversations, no e-mails, no texting going back and forth, and identify been talking about this. it's very difficult to see how this process moves fashd if -- we see them bringing in business leaders to the white house, ceos, middle class americans, and they're reaching tout these ceos of the business roundtable saying his policies will help businesses. his policies will make it easier to create jobs and that he is rooting for them. at the time he is trying to get behind his posit
. you talked about presidents from obama to george w. bush, bill clinton, all objecting to settlement on that spot and getting his assurances from israel that it wouldn't be built on, so why now? tough talking? election coming up? what happened in the u.n.? what's the feeling there? >> well, certainly the israelis have made no secret of the fact that this is a direct punitive measure for what happened at the u.n. last thursday where, of course, the palestinians managed get an upgraded status there in the u.n. general assembly going to nonmember observer state. of course, the word state there is the operative one for the palestinians. the palestinians now say they do, in fact, have a state which is a taertory that is defined as the west bank, gaza, and east jerusalem. so, therefore, the palestinians are saying that this obviously would make the implementation of this state all but impossible because they say it would be impossible for them to even reach their capital that they want to have, which is, of course, east jerusalem. this is certainly a measure that's cause aing lot of intern
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